Nancy Lazaryan, Consumer Advocate
Monday, August 4, 2008
Statutes Cited:351, Resignations, Vacancies, Removals
Monday, August 4, 2008You can have this ridiculous fight here
Anonymous said...
OK, here is a question:Why does Lantry insist on using code enforcement to go after landlords for the behavior and crime issues of the tenants? Codes are codes and behavior is behavior which are 2 entirely seperate things. When there's so mnay complaints from neighbors about renters, how can an educated person expect any change on the renter side when there is zero responsibility for them?
12:37 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
My question has to do with the incompetence of members of the city council.Specifically, every public official is required to swear an oath to uphold our constitutions.If an elected official does not swear and file this oath, then the person is NOT in office and the person is impersonating a public official. (this is criminal).If an elected official VIOLATES the oath of office, then there is an IMMEDIATE vacancy in the office, and the governor is required to appoint a replacement.(M.S. Sec 351.02 and 351.06).Ms. Lantry, have you ever READ the Minnesota and U.S. constitutions (which you are required to swear an oath to uphold)?And if so, do you blame public education for your ignorance of rights the People secured in our constitutions, including but not limited to our rights to our property, to be free from unlawful search and seizure, freedom of speech and our right to petition our government?It is well settled in criminal proceedings that ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse.A public official that swears an oath to uphold our constitutions and then blantantly violates the rights we the People secured in our constitutions cannot assert the defense of ignorance of our constitutions (our supreme law).Ms. Lantry, I will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you and the entire city council have repeatedly violated your oaths of office.When this proof is brought forward, will you leave the office that has been vacated by your malfeasances, or will force be necessary to have you comply with M.S.Sec. 351.02?Nancy Lazaryan
1:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Why have you not done any type of investigation regarding the allegations of the corruption of housing code officials?I'm not looking for some canned statement like the riocomen will get thier day in court either. There's been allegations that are serious and demand an immediate investigation before the outcome of the current lawsuits, What are you hiding that you refuse to investigate?
1:52 PM
Eric said...
12:09So, you have no question?12:37That's a decent enough question.Nancy, Is it possible for you not to be insulting and confrontational. Its an insult, accusation and threat. How about simply asking why the public hearing was recessed? Were you out of line and how?Eric
3:15 PM
Eric said...
1:52See above. No question just heat lamp allegations.So Bob, are you starting to see my point on the difference between here and e-democracy? At least the possibility for civil exchange exist. Here, its still a foreign concept.Even if the root of the hysteria is addressed, it won't be enough. Your people on this blog have pretty drawn their own conclusions. Eric
3:18 PM
Bob said...
Eric, I expected this reaction from some. Some folks here feel wronged by the city, and they are angry. They come here and vent. A Democracy has become a magnet for citizens with issues against the city. I feel these people need to be addressed and let the masses who read and never post decide for themselves.I chose Mitch and Bill to address our elected officials for a reason. These guys are level headed and very good communicators. I KNOW FOR A FACT MITCH AND BILL WILL BE RESPECTFUL of our elected officials. And of coarse we will have a Town Hall Meeting after the debate. Which brings me to my next subject.I have an announcement! I am working on adding Eric as a blog adminstrator. He will be able to post topics and moderate comments.Many of you have had your post deleted over the last few weeks, I may or may not of been the person who deleted your post. 3 weeks ago I added a legal beagle as an adminstrator and gave this person who I trust, full access to the blog in case something happened to me or I go on a vacation. His name is"The Invisible Man" :-)
3:41 PM
Anonymous said...
BobPlease withdraw question I posted at 1:52 P.M.I'd rahter not even have an attempted answer than have a rigged moderator already throwing water on it.It was a question and an important one and I think you get a moderator who knows a question when he they see it. Eric's attempt at minimizing it before they even get to it is just an example of what's wrong with the leadership in this city. Anyone who has anything to say that they don't like is immediately subjected to their trying to destroy your credibility ahead of time with remarks like "heat lamp allegations."There's no need for any meeting here, we already know what the score is with the city.1:52 P.M.
3:50 PM
Bob said...
Eric has a right to his opinion. He hasn't deleted the comment.
3:59 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
Wow,1984 here we are...on this blog.After the last couple of posts (including Bob's) I'm ready to delete all my comments and never post on this blog again.Bob, I didn't think you would sell out so quickly.HOW can you even ASK people to be respectful to elected officials that have DIRECTLY caused the death of YOUR friends??Lantry is scared. She needs to do damage control.And YOU are helping her do this damage control.Gag me with a spoon. No more cookies for Bob
4:05 PM
Anonymous said...
Considering the exchange between 1:52 and Eric (which he DID delete - it is not there any more) I think I'll wait with my question unitl I see what he does with the rest of them. I don't come here to be run down and humiliated.
4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
It's a DFL assault on the blog. They're tkaing over
4:10 PM
Anonymous said...
OMGPoor Bob, how quickly your friends desert you. The problem you are going to face is trying to get less than rational people to ask rational questions is a challange.I think you will have to depend on Mitch and Bill to come up with the questions because most of the rest of the list think that the, "when did you stop beating your wife?" question is a legitimate question. Nancy truly believe the things she says. She actually thinks that most elected officials are out there violating the constitution for the fun of it. Tim and the other RICO guys actually think that there was some group of people that got together somewhere and said, gee how can we put a bunch of landlords out of business to make PHA more profitable.They really believe this stuff.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:13 PM
EricM said...
3:50 wrote Eric. Your're a piece of shit. You think cause your're going to be a moderator you can do some advance danage control by by prefeacing my question as being "not civilized?" You want an example of not civilized, how bout I tear your head off and down your throat you DLF hack."Yes, you seem real civilized and mentally stable. I don't know how I could have been so mistaken. Ease up on the threats Mr Internet Tough Guy. Put your leather jacket on and go have a smoke. Physical threat are not your forte'.Why have you not done any type of investigation regarding the allegations of the corruption of housing code officials?I'm not looking for some canned statement like the riocomen will get thier day in court either. There's been allegations that are serious and demand an immediate investigation before the outcome of the current lawsuits, What are you hiding that you refuse to investigate?How about:Is there any action going on internally checking on accusations against code enforcement officers? When will that information become public? Your last line is an accusation that would not be sustained in court or even a hearing. Dummy.You're the idiot that thinks any counter opinion is a personal attack against you. Three people moderating, two republicans and one DFLer and you're still crying like a little Nancy. I was asked to do it and agreed to it but, I don't have to. Having most of you half-witted twits post your 'questions' as is will probably be the best support I can ask for. Most people will see how tin-foiled some of you are.Bob, I won't be moderating. Like I said a year ago, Truth is as foreign here as the Arabic language. Have at it.Eric
4:20 PM
Bob said...
I deleted the foul laungage comment.I have wanted a moderator here for sometime and I just discovered googles blogs are not set up for moderators anymore. I would have to put Eric on as a full adminstrator in effect giving him full rights to the blog. I'm sorry Eric I can not do that.As for the venom here. Jeeesh. Does anyone here want to find ANY common ground with city officials?I have been here and at SPIF for some of you going on 3 years now.I just think it would be wise to talk to our elected officials.I have a question I hope Bill or Mitch uses. IS, there an alternative to condemning a home for delinquent utilities?
4:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Bob,Adding on to your question, is it appeal-able. Meaning if the utilities are turned off and I get a notice from the City that they are condemning the building is there a time period where I can respond and show that the property isn't abandoned?People here make it seem as if the owner has no way to stop the action of the City.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Erics remarks regarding questions look to me like an attempt to put a smiley face on serious issues in an attempt to compartmentalize and minimize those issues. How do we have an "honest" debate with ground rules like that?
4:27 PM
Anonymous said...
4:27 what you don't get is that there is no way to answer the, "when did you stop beating your wife?" question that doesn't make you out to be a wife beater.What Eric is trying to do in putting a smiley face on the questions is get them answered for you.That is always the real issue here... do you actually want to know why the City does what it does or do you just want to vent?It would appear most people just want to vent.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Here's a question for Lantry: With the many, many houses being torn down throughout the City, how does the City Council see that tax base being replaced, by whom, and in what time frame?
4:52 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
Lantry says she's going "honor" the blog with her pretense (no spelling erro) and suddenly Eric and Chuck are deciding what are valid questions for Queen Lantry....Sounds like this entire blog has been a red herring for the DFL.I guess the REAL truth is coming out. Especially when Bob has a question that GIVES Lantry power.
4:59 PM
Bob said...
Nancy said;Bob, I didn't think you would sell out so quickly.my response; Nancy, that was a very FOOLISH statement. I have been speaking out on civil rights issues for over 3 years. 1 year at Saint Paul Issues and Forums and 2 years here. Where were you. OH, yeah, thats right, you didn't show up at A DEMOCRACY'S door step until you had problems of your own with the city. I DO NOT have a horse in the race other than my conscience.Nancy said;HOW can you even ASK people to be respectful to elected officials that have DIRECTLY caused the death of YOUR friends??my response;Very shallow misleading statement.There is only one person ETHICALLY responsible for the demise of my friends, and he hasn't worked with the city in YEARS!Nancy said;Lantry is scared. She needs to do damage control.my response;I have a different opinion and because you don't like it I am all these falsehoods in your mind.I think it takes great courage to face folks who have issues with the city. I do believe SOME here want nothing more than revenge. Others are looking for compremise.Nancy said;And YOU are helping her do this damage control.my response;I am giving the city council a platform to address citizens who have serious concerns over policies the city has, as I have given you and hundreds others a platform to vent your frustrations.What is the matter Nancy, you must feel if citizens hear from Kathy your stories will no longer hold water? Sounds like you are a little insecure with your cause.You preach about the masses here getting involved in their communities and now you say I am a traitor of sorts for attempting to build a bridge between our elected officials and the disgruntled citizens here. You sure confuse me.
OK, here is a question:Why does Lantry insist on using code enforcement to go after landlords for the behavior and crime issues of the tenants? Codes are codes and behavior is behavior which are 2 entirely seperate things. When there's so mnay complaints from neighbors about renters, how can an educated person expect any change on the renter side when there is zero responsibility for them?
12:37 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
My question has to do with the incompetence of members of the city council.Specifically, every public official is required to swear an oath to uphold our constitutions.If an elected official does not swear and file this oath, then the person is NOT in office and the person is impersonating a public official. (this is criminal).If an elected official VIOLATES the oath of office, then there is an IMMEDIATE vacancy in the office, and the governor is required to appoint a replacement.(M.S. Sec 351.02 and 351.06).Ms. Lantry, have you ever READ the Minnesota and U.S. constitutions (which you are required to swear an oath to uphold)?And if so, do you blame public education for your ignorance of rights the People secured in our constitutions, including but not limited to our rights to our property, to be free from unlawful search and seizure, freedom of speech and our right to petition our government?It is well settled in criminal proceedings that ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse.A public official that swears an oath to uphold our constitutions and then blantantly violates the rights we the People secured in our constitutions cannot assert the defense of ignorance of our constitutions (our supreme law).Ms. Lantry, I will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you and the entire city council have repeatedly violated your oaths of office.When this proof is brought forward, will you leave the office that has been vacated by your malfeasances, or will force be necessary to have you comply with M.S.Sec. 351.02?Nancy Lazaryan
1:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Why have you not done any type of investigation regarding the allegations of the corruption of housing code officials?I'm not looking for some canned statement like the riocomen will get thier day in court either. There's been allegations that are serious and demand an immediate investigation before the outcome of the current lawsuits, What are you hiding that you refuse to investigate?
1:52 PM
Eric said...
12:09So, you have no question?12:37That's a decent enough question.Nancy, Is it possible for you not to be insulting and confrontational. Its an insult, accusation and threat. How about simply asking why the public hearing was recessed? Were you out of line and how?Eric
3:15 PM
Eric said...
1:52See above. No question just heat lamp allegations.So Bob, are you starting to see my point on the difference between here and e-democracy? At least the possibility for civil exchange exist. Here, its still a foreign concept.Even if the root of the hysteria is addressed, it won't be enough. Your people on this blog have pretty drawn their own conclusions. Eric
3:18 PM
Bob said...
Eric, I expected this reaction from some. Some folks here feel wronged by the city, and they are angry. They come here and vent. A Democracy has become a magnet for citizens with issues against the city. I feel these people need to be addressed and let the masses who read and never post decide for themselves.I chose Mitch and Bill to address our elected officials for a reason. These guys are level headed and very good communicators. I KNOW FOR A FACT MITCH AND BILL WILL BE RESPECTFUL of our elected officials. And of coarse we will have a Town Hall Meeting after the debate. Which brings me to my next subject.I have an announcement! I am working on adding Eric as a blog adminstrator. He will be able to post topics and moderate comments.Many of you have had your post deleted over the last few weeks, I may or may not of been the person who deleted your post. 3 weeks ago I added a legal beagle as an adminstrator and gave this person who I trust, full access to the blog in case something happened to me or I go on a vacation. His name is"The Invisible Man" :-)
3:41 PM
Anonymous said...
BobPlease withdraw question I posted at 1:52 P.M.I'd rahter not even have an attempted answer than have a rigged moderator already throwing water on it.It was a question and an important one and I think you get a moderator who knows a question when he they see it. Eric's attempt at minimizing it before they even get to it is just an example of what's wrong with the leadership in this city. Anyone who has anything to say that they don't like is immediately subjected to their trying to destroy your credibility ahead of time with remarks like "heat lamp allegations."There's no need for any meeting here, we already know what the score is with the city.1:52 P.M.
3:50 PM
Bob said...
Eric has a right to his opinion. He hasn't deleted the comment.
3:59 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
Wow,1984 here we are...on this blog.After the last couple of posts (including Bob's) I'm ready to delete all my comments and never post on this blog again.Bob, I didn't think you would sell out so quickly.HOW can you even ASK people to be respectful to elected officials that have DIRECTLY caused the death of YOUR friends??Lantry is scared. She needs to do damage control.And YOU are helping her do this damage control.Gag me with a spoon. No more cookies for Bob
4:05 PM
Anonymous said...
Considering the exchange between 1:52 and Eric (which he DID delete - it is not there any more) I think I'll wait with my question unitl I see what he does with the rest of them. I don't come here to be run down and humiliated.
4:06 PM
Anonymous said...
It's a DFL assault on the blog. They're tkaing over
4:10 PM
Anonymous said...
OMGPoor Bob, how quickly your friends desert you. The problem you are going to face is trying to get less than rational people to ask rational questions is a challange.I think you will have to depend on Mitch and Bill to come up with the questions because most of the rest of the list think that the, "when did you stop beating your wife?" question is a legitimate question. Nancy truly believe the things she says. She actually thinks that most elected officials are out there violating the constitution for the fun of it. Tim and the other RICO guys actually think that there was some group of people that got together somewhere and said, gee how can we put a bunch of landlords out of business to make PHA more profitable.They really believe this stuff.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:13 PM
EricM said...
3:50 wrote Eric. Your're a piece of shit. You think cause your're going to be a moderator you can do some advance danage control by by prefeacing my question as being "not civilized?" You want an example of not civilized, how bout I tear your head off and down your throat you DLF hack."Yes, you seem real civilized and mentally stable. I don't know how I could have been so mistaken. Ease up on the threats Mr Internet Tough Guy. Put your leather jacket on and go have a smoke. Physical threat are not your forte'.Why have you not done any type of investigation regarding the allegations of the corruption of housing code officials?I'm not looking for some canned statement like the riocomen will get thier day in court either. There's been allegations that are serious and demand an immediate investigation before the outcome of the current lawsuits, What are you hiding that you refuse to investigate?How about:Is there any action going on internally checking on accusations against code enforcement officers? When will that information become public? Your last line is an accusation that would not be sustained in court or even a hearing. Dummy.You're the idiot that thinks any counter opinion is a personal attack against you. Three people moderating, two republicans and one DFLer and you're still crying like a little Nancy. I was asked to do it and agreed to it but, I don't have to. Having most of you half-witted twits post your 'questions' as is will probably be the best support I can ask for. Most people will see how tin-foiled some of you are.Bob, I won't be moderating. Like I said a year ago, Truth is as foreign here as the Arabic language. Have at it.Eric
4:20 PM
Bob said...
I deleted the foul laungage comment.I have wanted a moderator here for sometime and I just discovered googles blogs are not set up for moderators anymore. I would have to put Eric on as a full adminstrator in effect giving him full rights to the blog. I'm sorry Eric I can not do that.As for the venom here. Jeeesh. Does anyone here want to find ANY common ground with city officials?I have been here and at SPIF for some of you going on 3 years now.I just think it would be wise to talk to our elected officials.I have a question I hope Bill or Mitch uses. IS, there an alternative to condemning a home for delinquent utilities?
4:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Bob,Adding on to your question, is it appeal-able. Meaning if the utilities are turned off and I get a notice from the City that they are condemning the building is there a time period where I can respond and show that the property isn't abandoned?People here make it seem as if the owner has no way to stop the action of the City.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Erics remarks regarding questions look to me like an attempt to put a smiley face on serious issues in an attempt to compartmentalize and minimize those issues. How do we have an "honest" debate with ground rules like that?
4:27 PM
Anonymous said...
4:27 what you don't get is that there is no way to answer the, "when did you stop beating your wife?" question that doesn't make you out to be a wife beater.What Eric is trying to do in putting a smiley face on the questions is get them answered for you.That is always the real issue here... do you actually want to know why the City does what it does or do you just want to vent?It would appear most people just want to vent.JMONTOMEPPOFChuck Repke
4:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Here's a question for Lantry: With the many, many houses being torn down throughout the City, how does the City Council see that tax base being replaced, by whom, and in what time frame?
4:52 PM
Nancy Lazaryan said...
Lantry says she's going "honor" the blog with her pretense (no spelling erro) and suddenly Eric and Chuck are deciding what are valid questions for Queen Lantry....Sounds like this entire blog has been a red herring for the DFL.I guess the REAL truth is coming out. Especially when Bob has a question that GIVES Lantry power.
4:59 PM
Bob said...
Nancy said;Bob, I didn't think you would sell out so quickly.my response; Nancy, that was a very FOOLISH statement. I have been speaking out on civil rights issues for over 3 years. 1 year at Saint Paul Issues and Forums and 2 years here. Where were you. OH, yeah, thats right, you didn't show up at A DEMOCRACY'S door step until you had problems of your own with the city. I DO NOT have a horse in the race other than my conscience.Nancy said;HOW can you even ASK people to be respectful to elected officials that have DIRECTLY caused the death of YOUR friends??my response;Very shallow misleading statement.There is only one person ETHICALLY responsible for the demise of my friends, and he hasn't worked with the city in YEARS!Nancy said;Lantry is scared. She needs to do damage control.my response;I have a different opinion and because you don't like it I am all these falsehoods in your mind.I think it takes great courage to face folks who have issues with the city. I do believe SOME here want nothing more than revenge. Others are looking for compremise.Nancy said;And YOU are helping her do this damage control.my response;I am giving the city council a platform to address citizens who have serious concerns over policies the city has, as I have given you and hundreds others a platform to vent your frustrations.What is the matter Nancy, you must feel if citizens hear from Kathy your stories will no longer hold water? Sounds like you are a little insecure with your cause.You preach about the masses here getting involved in their communities and now you say I am a traitor of sorts for attempting to build a bridge between our elected officials and the disgruntled citizens here. You sure confuse me.
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